When they still don't see the error.
"Our concept of the universe differs in blank contrast. So when I put something on you about your disbelief, the reasonable thing for an atheist is to say, "fine ****, okay, here's my morally constructed universe," then everything would be fine.
But you became very upset, and I'm sorry about that."
The person who wonderfully insulted me in this entry I wrote about atheists and Christmas, sent me another long-ish email today about him upsetting me.
Yes he apologized, but he is still putting the blame on me, on my reaction to his insults.
It wasn't that he had attacked my disbelief, it was that he was insulting me, telling me I am not worthy to give and receive presents, because Christmas means something to him, and because I don't share his beliefs, I have no right to have it mean a joyous holiday to share with my friends and family. That I have no right to give or receive presents.
That simply because I did not share his reasons for Christmas or his beliefs, I am not a worthy human being.
In his email, he clearly says he put something on me about my disbelief, and the reasonable atheist reaction should have been, according to him, someone who is not an atheist, was to tell him my morally constructed universe, and then let all the insults he flung at me, fall to the wayside, like they were nothing.
Like being an atheist means I have to be robotic in my emotions, and not care that I was insulted.
He still clearly does not understand atheism or humanism.
I believe in science and facts and people.
I believe that people can and will do what's right by their fellow man, without a higher power telling them how to treat each other.
Even with his higher power telling him how to treat others, he still thinks it was ok of him to throw insults around, and he's somehow morally superior than I am, and I should have simply ignored those insults, and let bygones be bygones, the subject title of his email.
He's only sorry because I became upset, not because he was rude and insulted me.
"If you're nice, you can give me room for being human."
I can give room for being human, as long as that human is willing to shift the blame from me, to themselves.
Don't apologize because I was upset.
Apologize because you were rude.

Comments
An excellent point, Kat. I am a person of religious faith, though of a rather obscure brand... but I tend to think jerk-y behavior like that is what gives most "people of faith" a bad name. Rather than allowing their beliefs to keep them humble, they become arrogant and rude to anyone who doesn't agree with them and see things their way.
Unfortunate.
But, hey, just like any other people group, not all people of faith are alike. I hope people treat you better in the future. The way I understand my faith is that "love thy neighbor as you love thyself" does NOT contain any qualifiers like "as long as they believe the same things you believe." Shalom and best wishes!
Posted by: Craig Hansen | September 9, 2007 12:13 AM